The Secrets Thomas Jefferson Tried to Keep
The Not Old Better Show, Art of Living Interview Series
🗽 Thomas Jefferson is often treated as an idea more than a person. But what happens when we pause, look closer, and ask who he really was—emotionally, physically, privately?
In this week’s episode of The Not Old Better Show, I’m joined by historian Andrew Burstein, whose new book uncovers a Jefferson marked by chronic illness 🤕, obsessive order 📊, emotional vulnerability 💔, and lifelong secrecy.
Today’s episode is sponsored by Caraway. Good Looking & Clean Cooking.
📜 Through letters, lists, and private moments, Burstein reveals a man who avoided confrontation, controlled his surroundings, and struggled to reconcile ideals with personal choices—especially in his relationship with Sally Hemings.
🎭 This conversation also asks why Jefferson still matters so much today—claimed by all sides, reshaped by each generation, and never fully settled. For listeners who value depth, nuance, and honest reflection, this episode resonates deeply.
🎧 Listen here: https://notoldbettershow.info/4456zJi
Today’s episode is sponsored by Caraway. Good Looking & Clean Cooking.
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